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The Career Clinic - UK


Relocation - regional and international

 
Email your questions about getting into, and getting on in, Market Research to careers@mrweb.com along with your name and we'll pass them to the appropriate expert. Questions and answers will be shown on the site but will be anonymised as carefully as if we were writing up a qual b2b interview. Please note that questions pertaining to careers in unrelated fields - engineering, sales etc.. - will not be answered. All rights reserved.



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Q94A.   I am an Indian national with more than 10 years agency side MR experience in globally-respected agencies in India and now the Middle East, and with a significant amount of business development in the last 5 years [detailed resume attached].

I would now like to broaden my experience with a stint in a developed research market - preferably the UK/US because of familiarity with the language - but have also put myself forward for places like Asia / South Africa given that work permits are difficult to obtain in the UK/US. I have had no response from recruitment agencies in the UK, even for the latter.

Is there something in my profile that is a barrier, is it a legal issue like a work permit requirement, or is it something else? Your advice would help me in trying a different approach or modifying my objectives if required. A position in a marketing/branding consultancy would be ideal. If not an alternative would be a Business Development role in an agency which involves a lot of face time with client.

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Q84.   I am looking to relocate to the UK and am interested in pursuing a career in MR. What level jobs should I apply for? Is it possible to secure a UK based job prior to arriving in the country?
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Q80.   My partner is Russian and currently lives and works in Moscow. She recently started a full-time job as a Qualitative Market Research Executive in the Moscow office of a large international market research company. She is also now doing a PhD. She is looking into the possibility of coming to work in market research in the UK once she has completed her PhD. I'd like to ask whether the PhD she is doing will be useful to her, in terms of finding a job here and/or salary. I also wonder whether you have any general view on the likelihood of her finding a position here given that she'd need a work permit and how you think that position would change if she were able to obtain British citizenship.
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Q79.   I'm coming to work in London soon...My experience is all Field based. However, now I'm looking to do exec work. Preferably in Qual/ Social research. What are my options?
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Q67.   I would love to get into market research. However I live in Northern Ireland. I am willing to move to Dublin, but I do not wish to move to mainland UK. Is there any advice on how I will do this here?
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Q61.   I am currently working as a research executive for a medium size agency in the North of England, doing only quant work. I am looking for a new job in the direction of social research or research in the public sector....Could you give me some advice ?
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Q58.   I've been working in MR in London for the past seven years and will be emigrating to Canada this summer. I will need to find work to get me started. The advice I am looking for is whether I should approach any recruitment agencies here first (and which ones)? or should I wait and apply to recruitment agencies out there and if so where can I find out the names of agencies in Vancouver that specialise in MR?
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Q57.   I am currently an SRE working for a top 10 Agency in Central London. I need to leave London next year and go to live in Birmingham. Do any of the large agencies actually have offices in Birmingham or the surrounding towns? Also, what kind of drop in salary am I going to have to take?

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Q42.   I have been in the field of quantitative market research for the last five years, in India and the Middle-East.How feasible is it to find an equivalent MR job in UK? Are agencies open to recruiting people from India/Middle-East?

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Q9.   What is the future for Market Research in the South West, particularly Bristol?
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Q94A.   I am an Indian national with more than 10 years agency side MR experience in globally-respected agencies in India and now the Middle East, and with a significant amount of business development in the last 5 years [detailed resume attached].

I would now like to broaden my experience with a stint in a developed research market - preferably the UK/US because of familiarity with the language - but have also put myself forward for places like Asia / South Africa given that work permits are difficult to obtain in the UK/US. I have had no response from recruitment agencies in the UK, even for the latter.

Is there something in my profile that is a barrier, is it a legal issue like a work permit requirement, or is it something else? Your advice would help me in trying a different approach or modifying my objectives if required. A position in a marketing/branding consultancy would be ideal. If not an alternative would be a Business Development role in an agency which involves a lot of face time with client.

    Caroline says: Firstly I'm sorry for the lack of acknowledgement on your CV from agencies you have approached.

There are a few reasons why your brief is unrealistic. You are right in thinking that your lack of residency and work status in the UK and EU are a major issue and will be the main barrier to your ability to secure a job. The same applies to the US and Australia where it is even more difficult for foreign nationals to get jobs. I would imagine that similar restrictions exist in S.Africa although I'm less familiar with that country's immigration policy. You'll need to get sponsorship or obtain a working visa first to be considered. My advice is to get in touch with the relevant embassies to go about doing this.

Unfortunately your wish to work in a marketing / brand consultancy away from your home country or the country where you’re currently base is totally unrealistic. Your lack of local market knowledge and local consumer understanding would make it extremely difficult for you to come up with appropriate marketing strategy for clients. You don't currently have a track record in a consultancy so trying to change roles and move to a different country in one go will be impossible.

If you are determined to work in the countries you have listed, my advice to you is to continue to develop your excellent market research career where you can be productive in a more familiar environment and your future employer can maximise your skills and experience. You can then familiarise yourself with local markets and then be in a much stronger position to move consultancy side in that country in the future.

I hope this helps and clarifies things for you.

Q84.   I am looking to relocate to the UK and am interested in pursuing a career in MR. I have a good M.A. in Psychological research, and nearly 3 years experience in public health oriented community/social research in South Africa. I have experience in questionnaire design, and qualitative and quantitative analysis.

What level jobs should I apply for? Is it possible to secure a UK based job prior to arriving in the country? Would my experience be sufficient for market research companies?

    Caroline says: With 3 years experience, you are probably eligible for SRE level roles, but without seeing your CV and seeing what level of responsibilities you have had it is difficult to make an accurate assessment. For the same reason it is not easy for me to see if your experience will be of interest to a market research agency.

To secure a job over here you need to get a work permit or Visa. You will need to come over to the UK to get a job as well because most companies like to meet people before they make job offers. My clients are generally not interested in considering people unless they have firm plans to travel to the UK.

Q80.   Having looked at the 'Career Clinic' section of the web site, I would like to ask a question on behalf of my partner.

She is Russian and currently lives and works in Moscow. Six months ago, she started a full-time job as a Qualitative Market Research Executive in the Moscow office of a large international market research company... She is also now doing a PhD. The skills that the PhD involves are very transferable into market research... She speaks very fluent English and uses her English at work daily, to communicate with colleagues, clients and people she interviews for research purposes (in focus groups etc.). She also regularly translates documents from / into English.

So that we may live closer together, she is looking into the possibility of coming to work in market research in the UK. However this is likely to be at least two and a half years away, once she has completed her PhD. Obviously it is difficult to predict the state of the market so far ahead. However, I'd like to ask whether the PhD in the subject she is doing will be useful to her, in terms of finding a job here and/or salary. I also wonder whether you have any general view on the likelihood of her finding a position here given that she'd need a work permit and how you think that position would change if she were able to obtain British citizenship. I imagine that without citizenship, market research companies would only employ her in the UK if they needed an expert on the Russian market in their UK office. Otherwise, they may as well take someone from within the EU. I also imagine that another issue is likely to be the fact that she would have to be paid a lot more in the UK than in Moscow.

    Caroline says: The Phd will be less useful than the experience as a qualitative researcher she is gaining. It's good that it is with a international company which will be known in the UK. She should think about getting sponsorship with her current employer to work here or applying for a work permit/visa which she should be able to get if she is not too old.

She would of course get paid the market rate in the UK for someone with her level of experience when she arrives.

Q79.   I'm coming to work in London soon and would like to know what opportunities I would have.
Currently I'm studying the 'Advanced Certificate in Market Research' done through MRS of London. After which I will complete the Diploma.
My experience is all Field based, having worked for 6 years as a quant interviewer and supervisor. This has been in London and New Zealand.
However, now I'm looking to do exec work. Preferably in Qual/ Social research. What are my options?

    Caroline says: I hope you don't mind my honest but rather pessimistic verdict on your question.

I think you will have a tough time trying because you have no relevant experience either in qual or from what I can assume from the companies you have worked for, social research. You will also need to expect to start again at the bottom, as a trainee and work your way up which means you will start on a low salary. eg ?18k You will also need to make direct applications to get in.

A degree will be absolutely essential because public sector/govt clients make high demands on their research agency suppliers which puts them under pressure to put highly qualified people on their business.

Are you sure you really want to do this? Talking to candidates, govt clients can be extremely bureaucratic, process driven and sometimes rather boring. Some of the projects can be very large and long and therefore dull and repetitive to work on. I've had a few people on my books say they really want to do social research, sent them on a couple of interviews which have made them realise that it is not all it's cracked up to be. They have then decided not to go for jobs in social.

I'm not saying that all social research jobs are boring at all. Far from it, but do be aware of the pitfalls.

Q67.   I have a degree in sociology and I have just finished an Msc in communication, advertising and marketing. I would love to get into market research. However I live in Northern Ireland. I am willing to move to Dublin, but I do not wish to move to mainland UK. Is there any advice on how I will do this here?

    Liz says: I would always advise a new graduate wishing to go into market research to join a research agency initially, as this is where you will get the best training in the nuts and bolts of research. There are a few research agencies in Dublin so this is where I would start. If you aren't successful with these then I know of at least one large FMCG manufacturer who has a research department there and they may be a couple of companies like this, try them next. The larger advertising agencies might also be worth trying. Even if you don't get the ideal job initially it might give you enough experience to make a second application to the research agencies in a years time more successful.

Q61.   I am currently working as a research executive for a medium size agency in the North of England, doing only quant work. I have been with this agency for 2 years now and I feel like I need a change. I am looking for a new job in the direction of social research or research in the public sector. The main reason for the change is that I would like to benefit from more involvement and a wider range of research techniques. I have a masters degree in sociology and MRS Advanced Certificate. I don't mind to move away from the region. Could you give me some advice ?

    Debby says: It sounds to me as though you could be an interesting candidate for a number of companies - in the North, Midlands and the South. With a Masters and an MRS qualification you have the ideal academic background. Public and social research have remained fairly buoyant in research terms while other sectors have suffered and there are a number of requirements for well trained execs.

Q58.   I've been working in MR in London for the past seven years and will be emigrating to Vancouver Canada this summer. Although eventually I would like to change career when I get to Vancouver I will need to find work to get me started. Its not essential for me to find work before I get to Canada as I am married to a Canadian citizen and am being sponsored that way.
I'm now starting to think about job searches, and have discovered there are a number of smaller agencies out there along with a couple of the bigger names. The advice I am looking for is whether I should approach any recruitment agencies here first (and which ones)? or should I wait and apply to recruitment agencies out there and if so where can I find out the names of agencies in Vancouver that specialise in MR?

    Debby says: To be honest I am not aware that any of the specialist MR recruitment companies in the UK deal in any significant way with Canada. Most of the jobs abroad focus on Australia and the Far East, sometimes the States.
I have taken a look at Canadian recruitment companies via the Google search engine and have established the following names that you might try - however, I don't think they specialise in mr in the way that consultancies do here:

www.angusone.com
www.canadajobs.com
www.canpro.com
www.aplin.com
www.fwj.com
www.business.com

It may sound obvious but using your own organisation to help you could be your best bet. WPP/Kantar must have companies in Canada. Otherwise you could look at the websites of the global or US owned-UK companies - ACNielsen does have an office in Richmond BC for example.

Q57.   I am currently an SRE with 6 years experience working for a dynamic, busy, top 10 Agency in Central London. For personal reasons, I need to leave London next year and go to live in Birmingham. I can't bear the thought of working clientside or for a small agency. Do any of the large agencies actually have offices in Birmingham or the surrounding towns? Also, what kind of drop in salary am I going to have to take?

    Debby says: There is life after London! Obviously it depends what you mean by a small agency - will 50-100 people and £5m turnover do? Just because a company is smaller does not necessarily mean it is less dynamic or busy - quite the reverse in many cases. Also working for a smaller company can often result in your gaining more responsibility sooner.

With regards to money, it is surprising how close salaries are - London agencies do not pay a lot more - and sometimes pay less for equivalent levels.

Q42.   I have been in the field of quantitative market research for the last five years, in India and the Middle-East (with leading market research agencies).
I wanted to find out : How feasible is it to find an equivalent MR job in UK? Are agencies open to recruiting people from India/Middle-East?

    Sinead Hasson says: Without having more detail on your exact experience I cannot be too specific, however there are lots of opportunities with market research agencies in the UK. There is a skills shortage in the UK and companies are more open to sponsoring overseas candidates than they have been in the past.

The best way to move forward would be to send your CV to a recruitment agency and they will be able to advise you on how they can help.

Q9.   What is the future for Market Research in the South West, particularly Bristol? I have recently been searching for positions there and have found that there are far more jobs available in Marketing. Is it worth me trying to develop my skills/Qualifications in Marketing?

A.   Sinead says: There are a few research agencies in the South West where you may be able to find suitable opportunities, but you may find that there are generally fewer opportunities than in London where there is obviously a greater concentration of agencies. If you have classic research training I am sure that you will be able to find work in an agency. Otherwise you could make a move to the clientside to a research role - within a marketing department and from there try to broaden your knowledge and experience of marketing. As well as that you could consider doing the CIM Diploma which would confirm to future employers your committment to developing marketing skills.
   

Key to previous and current Agony Aunts / Uncles


Sinead Hasson, Hasson Associates
Kate Langford, Hasson Associates
Peter McGrath, PSD
Nick Gendler, then of KD Consulting
Debby Robson, then of SLS Services
Liz Norman, ENI
Caroline Steane / Clive Warren, CSA Recruitment
Jenny Bastin, then of Buckingham Personnel
Helen Pegnall, then of ENI






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